Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26382469-20171110014011/@comment-33205590-20171115155708

DuskEalain wrote: Thatgamerfromxbox wrote: I agree with all of these, though to a certain extent.

1. I agree that us fans are expecting a bit too much out of Logan. However, I do think that Logan can do better in his current videos. Not only that, I know he can. He did better in older SML. Not exactly in videos from like 2007, but in videos from like 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, and the first half of 2016. So I think expecting a little more out of Logan's videos is not necessarily a bad thing, though it is when people take it too far. Besides, the people who complain whenever Junior or Jeffy appears aren't the only ones at fault. The ones who complain whenever Jeffy and Junior don't appear are also guilty.

2. I do agree that old SML is pretty overrated. 2007, 2010, and 2014 were pretty bad years. Also, I never really saw the appeal for Tony, and never really liked him that much. However, I guess that people find Tony's toilet humor more tolerable than Jeffy's. I actually agree with those people, since Jeffy's is not only gross, but disturbing as well. Also, Jeffy's swearing can actually be controlled, while Mario's high-pitched voice really couldn't (since they were only kids during that time).

3. Yeah, a lot of people seem to deem every type of pain a character receives as torture. However, I must disagree with how you presented your example of The Test. First off, Cody wasn't doing it to boost his ego. He knows that Junior's never impressed by his smarts, so that would be a waste of his time. Second, Cody was doing it to help them. If you recall earlier, Cody thought that he would get more pizza if Junior failed. So if he helped Junior and Jeffy out, what would Cody get out of it? Simple: nothing other than less pizza (as he thinks). Third, Cody did not know that Jeffy would bully him along with Junior. Sure, he should've known that Junior would bully him, since he hangs out with him a lot. But he doesn't interact with Jeffy a lot, and the only times he did interact with him (in the Bowser Junior's Game Night series), Jeffy wasn't acting like a dick. However, Cody did have the ending of failing for cheating coming to him.

Also, let me mention a video with a similar scenario: Jeffy's Shirt. People hated this video just because Goodman was acting like a dick (some even going as far as deeming this the worst video of 2017), and claimed that he tortured Mario, Jeffy, Chef Pee Pee. Sure, Goodman stole their check, but that's not torture at all. Besides, Mario knows that Goodman is a greedy man (since he sued two companies just to get more money), so he technically brought it onto himself. He should've known that Goodman would pull a stunt like this.

1. Of course, there aren't really that many "heroes" in this story, Logan can improve, as can any content creator, but I don't think enough of the fanbase knows how to help him improve.

2. Exactly, there were just as many problems with old SML as there are in new SML just in different areas per se. I merely used Mario's voice as an example. Tony I never got into either, the only funny part I can recall of his entire "career" was this one part in which he slowly snuck over to a bowl of Frosted Flakes, yelled their name at the top of his lungs and proceeded to faceplant into them. That was merely funny out of the absurd nature of it. I generally don't like toilet humour at all and the only time a character based around this has gotten my enjoyment is Shrek, and even then I only really find him funny when the concept is something other than his bodily functions, i.e fishing for cheesecake or "The day has come, I've become one with the toilet, Donkey."

3. It's been a while since I've seen the Test so I may just have a foggy memory, all I can remember is a number of people labelling it torture and me clearly remembering he did something to deserve it in the end. When it comes to Jeffy I didn't necessarily mean that Cody would know he'd be a dick, but that he knew that Jeffy was, for lack of a better word, retarded.

And honestly speaking I liked Jeffy's Shirt. Then again I also usually enjoy most of the characters that were in it, Chef Peepee being one of my favourites and Goodman's actions always got a laugh out of me. Agreed. Also, I also liked Jeffy’s Shirt. People were hating on it just because Goodman stole Jeffy, Mario, and Chef Pee Pee’s money, and deemed it torture.